![]() Now, the limbs aren't the same as in a Hoyt (which doesn't matter, due they cost less than 90 € and being ILF you can swap it and buy a pair of Hoyt Velos or Nanos from W&W, if you want/can spent that sort of money. Now, that riser alone cost ~450 US $ before taxes, and in the Martin's video the whole bow price tag was 470 AUS $, and currently cost less than 192 € (shipping included) in my country, and the riser alone cost ~100 €. Happens that the TBOW is exactly the same riser as the Hoyt Satori 19" (which is outsourced and manufactured in China). I was taking a look for hunting style ILF bows at well known manufacturers with models as the W&W Black Wolf, Hoyt Satori or the Lancaster's brand TradTech Titan series valuing if a traditional ILF riser was a good first step towards increasing my draw weight before buying my first compound, when saw the Stephen Martin (Archery Supplies)video about the TBOW (from May 2018). I'm shocked by some prices from Aliexpress in their traditional bows with ILF risers. last comment is what i found in my research also.Īpril 3rd, 2019, 05:31 AM#41Buran Buran is offline Refer to this video on youtube in comments section. I do however agree with regard to buying genuine where possible when the product is actually made in usa or is genuinely of better quality than some chinese cheap product. My local club has a trad shooter that got the genuine hoyt riser and had problems with it (was missing some screw from the limb adjustment apparantly) and hoyt did absolutely nothing for him, so why spend the extra money on exactly the same thing without any better warranty! When i got mine, they would ship worldwide except for the usa and i can only speculate that this is the deal they have with hoyt. Some people in various forums ended up purchasing both risers to compare them and they are exactly the same even down to the machining marks etc. Thats a big difference to being manufactured in america. ![]() If you're decided on 21" riser, this plan won't work, as the TBow is only available in 19".When i was researching my riser, i found that hoyt say that the satori is "assembled in america". If you've chosen the TBow, you'll then have to decide if you want to upgrade to the genuine article. You'll be able to recoup all or most of your money. If it's close, then shoot them both for a couple months and sell the one you don't like on this forum. If you strongly prefer the Black Elk immediately on comparison, send the Tbow back for refund. And at the same time order a TBow riser from Amazon - not a set with limbs, but just the riser. Suggestion: Order a Black Elk from Alternatives with a set of limbs of your choice. I don't shoot my TBow often, but each time I do I kind of marvel at how well it points and shoots. The Satori, as others have said, points very naturally. I like the grip on the Black Elk better, but the Satori grip is also very good. So both risers are solid, proven designs, rather than something that went from someone's brain to CAD to market only recently. This is a design that they've been making for years and have sold under various names. The Black Elk is essentially the 21" version of what Win & Win currently call the Explore DX. The Satori borrows elements from several generations of Hoyt Olympic recurve risers. TBow feels a bit more solid after the shot Black Elk has a slightly pingy feel, but this is slight, subtle.īoth risers come out of long Olympic recurve pedigrees and R&D. I like a lighter riser I think I'm in the minority. The TBow and Satori are heavier than the Black Elk. I prefer the Black Elk's looks - Lorien vs Mordor, in my view, LOL - but there's no accounting for taste. I have the TBow Satori-clone and a Black Elk.
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